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Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

AnnaGiangregori — Thu, 03 May 2018 18:28:19 GMT

Hi Everyone,Happy Friday! Well, it's that time again. We have a new blog post in the Mathcad Prime 2.0 blog series! Today's post is called "Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature we DON'T Want to Conceal!" This post is all about what Collapsible Areas are,

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

MikeArmstrong — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:05:00 GMT

This isn't really an improvement though is it. We had these in Mathcad 15.

Mike

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

AnnaGiangregori — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:22:08 GMT

That is correct, Mathcad 15.0 did have collapsible areas as well. Mathcad Prime 1.0 however, does not have this feature so it is brand new to Mathcad Prime. I see this as an example of Mathcad Prime 2.0 adding back some of the existing features and capabilities that earlier versions of Mathcad had, as a result of customer feedback.

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

ValeryOchkov — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:57:56 GMT

Hi Anna.

Can we have in Mathcad Prime 2.0 areas in an area?

We can do so with some problems im regular Mathcad:

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

mzeftel — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:29:01 GMT

Valery,

There may be a workaround that you discovered, but areas within areas is not a supported feature of earlier versions of Mathcad.

Mona

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

ValeryOchkov — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:45:42 GMT

Mona Zeftel wrote:
Valery,
There may be a workaround that you discovered, but areas within areas is not a supported feature of earlier versions of Mathcad.
Mona

We can not create an area in the created area but we can create a new area not far from one old area and move the new area into the old area. Try please.

It vwll be good to have this nested area in Mathcad Prime! Mathcad Prime Minister has this wery useful tool

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

ValeryOchkov — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:48:41 GMT

Sorry,

can we lock areas in Mathcad Prime?

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

mzeftel — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:48:16 GMT

Locking areas will not be a feature of Mathcad Prime 2.0.

Sorry,

Mona

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

RichardJ — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:55:06 GMT

I've done this too, but I ran into some nasty problems afterwards. I forget exactly what they were, but they were nasty enough that I stopped doing it!

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

ValeryOchkov — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:26:11 GMT

Mona sorry!

But PTC makes every effort to allow users said, "Mathcad Prime is a step back"

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

ValeryOchkov — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:27:20 GMT

Richard Jackson wrote:
I've done this too, but I ran into some nasty problems afterwards. I forget exactly what they were, but they were nasty enough that I stopped doing it!

See one my sheet:

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

MikeArmstrong — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:31:58 GMT

This is great news as this is one of the feature which would have prevented my company from switiching to the new software.

Mike

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

MikeArmstrong — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:33:01 GMT

Mona sorry!
But PTC makes every effort to allow users said, "Mathcad Prime is a step back"

I agree that area's should be able to be locked, but at least we have locked area's again.

1 step in the right direction.

Mike

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

ValeryOchkov — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 04:47:04 GMT

But PTC makes every effort to allow users said, "Mathcad Prime is a step back"

But I understand the policy of PTC with Mathcad (Prime)

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

LouP — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:58:18 GMT

In the earlier version of mathcad I use (I confess nothing! :-), the only way to move the end of an area is to drag it - unless I've been missing something all these years. This isn't so bad if you only need to cover one or two screens. For very long areas, this is a major inconvenience. Does the new area capability have a means to simply scroll/page to the desired end of the area in the worksheet and then insert the true end via a right click (e.g., insert area end here)? If not this, is there another technique? Or is dragging the end through myriad screens the only way to move it?

Lou

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

MikeArmstrong — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:11:36 GMT

Lou Poulo wrote:
In the earlier version of mathcad I use (I confess nothing! :-), the only way to move the end of an area is to drag it - unless I've been missing something all these years.

You can move the end of a collapsed area by striking enter when the cursor is in the collapsed area.

I'm sorry I can't check your query because my Mathcad Prime 2.0 license has expired.

Mike

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

LouP — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:06:09 GMT

Hitting "Enter" when in a collapsed area just increases the space within the collapsed area ( at least in v11). It doesn't move the end of the are relative to what follows the area end bar. If I have ten screens of work that I decide later to enclose in an area, I know of no way to put the end at the desired place other than dragging it half screen at a time, and again, and again...

Lou

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

mzeftel — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:45:05 GMT

Lou,

I understand what you are asking for, but we don't have that feature yet. Unlike in Mathcad 15, in Mathcad Prime 2.0, you can copy and paste content into a small area, and it will expand accordingly. I just tested it in both versions.

Mona

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

MikeArmstrong — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:47:41 GMT

Hitting "Enter" when in a collapsed area just increases the space within the collapsed area ( at least in v11). It doesn't move the end of the are relative to what follows the area end bar. If I have ten screens of work that I decide later to enclose in an area, I know of no way to put the end at the desired place other than dragging it half screen at a time, and again, and again...

Sorry Lou,

I misunderstood what you were asking. It can be a bit annoying when you want to expand the collapsed area. I feel your pain.

Mike

Re: Collapsible Areas: A Mathcad Prime 2.0 Feature We DON’T Want to Conceal!

MikeArmstrong — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:48:36 GMT

I understand what you are asking for, but we don't have that feature yet. Unlike in Mathcad 15, in Mathcad Prime 2.0, you can copy and paste content into a small area, and it will expand accordingly. I just tested it in both versions.

Well thanks definately another improvement.

Mike