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    <title>topic Re: Derivative problem in Mathcad</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;"You equation can't be solve by elementary means, so Prime can't find a symbolic solution."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stupid Prime.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="LucMeekes_0-1588528358175.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26551iA2455F371561036E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="LucMeekes_0-1588528358175.png" alt="LucMeekes_0-1588528358175.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Success!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Luc&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 17:54:26 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>LucMeekes</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-05-03T17:54:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Derivative problem</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Mathcad/Derivative-problem/m-p/663710#M189933</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I used the derivative function but now i need to find L&amp;nbsp; how to do it ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2020 17:51:32 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>vladstavar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-02T17:51:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derivative problem</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Mathcad/Derivative-problem/m-p/663731#M189942</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You need to define values for "U", "R", &amp;amp; "L"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Cheers&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Terry&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 00:14:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>terryhendicott</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-03T00:14:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derivative problem</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Mathcad/Derivative-problem/m-p/663736#M189943</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You equation can't be solve by elementary means, so Prime can't find a symbolic solution.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Werner_E_0-1588463991847.png" style="width: 279px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26525i25871B35203E1F54/image-dimensions/279x177?v=v2" width="279" height="177" role="button" title="Werner_E_0-1588463991847.png" alt="Werner_E_0-1588463991847.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But if you provide values for U, R and t you can get a numerical solution for L:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Werner_E_4-1588467525964.png" style="width: 452px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26531i71E1D686DDBB6F24/image-dimensions/452x174?v=v2" width="452" height="174" role="button" title="Werner_E_4-1588467525964.png" alt="Werner_E_4-1588467525964.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is probably not the solution you are looking for, but when forced to switch into float mode, the symbolic will only return one solution with no control over it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Note that I used the prime operator for the derivative.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Another way would be to use the usual derivative operator as you did and assign the result to a new function (I called it "f1" in the pic below and made it dependent on t AND L).&lt;BR /&gt;You may add units and use the numeric "root" command instead of the symbolic solve. Numerical methods like "root" or a solve block a native to Prime and can handle units (the symbolics doesn't know anything about units):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Werner_E_0-1588467739873.png" style="width: 528px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26532i28FCDEC0C7B61AA1/image-dimensions/528x523?v=v2" width="528" height="523" role="button" title="Werner_E_0-1588467739873.png" alt="Werner_E_0-1588467739873.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Prime 6 worksheet attached&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 01:03:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Werner_E</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-03T01:03:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derivative problem</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Mathcad/Derivative-problem/m-p/663782#M189963</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;"You equation can't be solve by elementary means, so Prime can't find a symbolic solution."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stupid Prime.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="LucMeekes_0-1588528358175.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/26551iA2455F371561036E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="LucMeekes_0-1588528358175.png" alt="LucMeekes_0-1588528358175.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Success!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Luc&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 17:54:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>LucMeekes</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-03T17:54:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Derivative problem</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Mathcad/Derivative-problem/m-p/663798#M189967</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/14826"&gt;@LucMeekes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"You equation can't be solve by elementary means, so Prime can't find a symbolic solution."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stupid Prime.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LambertW is not "elementary"&amp;nbsp; and can usually only be evaluated numerically&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But I second your "Stupid Prime" nonetheless for many other reasons &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2020 04:00:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Mathcad/Derivative-problem/m-p/663798#M189967</guid>
      <dc:creator>Werner_E</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-04T04:00:59Z</dc:date>
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