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    <title>topic Windchill Error when data is moved. in Windchill</title>
    <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96259#M11290</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We used to get this error quite a bit.  Especially, after we changed the Windchill configuration, 'Send a CAD document Dynamic Document to PDM without optional Dependents' to True.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;While that setting was set to True we would get these errors once every 4-6 weeks.  After a lot of troubleshooting we tracked the cause down to the above mentioned setting.  After we set it back we have not seen this error since.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;However, when you get the not persistent error, it almost always took a database level manipulation to fix.  PTC tech support finally issued us a patch after quite a bit of work to clear up our last remaining errors.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;So the recommendation is to leave, 'Send a CAD document Dynamic Document to PDM without optional Dependents' at the default False setting.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;-marc&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:28:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>mdebower</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-03-31T18:28:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Windchill Error when data is moved.</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96257#M11288</link>
      <description>All,I am trying to move a CREO part file from one contextbox to another one.I receive an error: Object "wt.epm.EPMDocument&amp;gt;10911020" is not persistent.I think the reason behind this is, that this part was in the past a family table part.At this moment the latest revision</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 12:43:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96257#M11288</guid>
      <dc:creator>bbusschers</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-02T12:43:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Windchill Error when data is moved.</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96258#M11289</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Are you sure the part(s) you speak of were ever uploaded from the local&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;workspace to the server workspace? Or not deleted?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Bert Busschers &amp;lt;-&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;wrote:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;  All,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; I am trying to move a CREO part file from one contextbox to another one.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; I receive an error: *Object "wt.epm.EPMDocument&amp;gt;10911020" is not&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; persistent.*&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; I think the reason behind this is, that this part was in the past a family&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; table part.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; At this moment the latest revision is not a family table part.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; The instance is “copied out”. In fact the part and the instance are now&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; separated parts.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Can anyone tell me how to solve this problem so I am able again to move&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; the part?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks in advance.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; With kind Regards,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; *Bert Busschers*&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Sr. Mechanical Designer/CAD Administrator&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; ME/ID Department&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Benchmark Electronics Almelo&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Lelyweg 10 - 7602 EA Almelo - The Netherlands&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; +31 546 535209 (tel)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; +31 546 535299 (fax)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Bert.Busschers@bench.com&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;A href="http://www.bench.com" target="_blank"&gt;www.bench.com&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 01:50:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96258#M11289</guid>
      <dc:creator>ddemay</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-27T01:50:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Windchill Error when data is moved.</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96259#M11290</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;We used to get this error quite a bit.  Especially, after we changed the Windchill configuration, 'Send a CAD document Dynamic Document to PDM without optional Dependents' to True.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;While that setting was set to True we would get these errors once every 4-6 weeks.  After a lot of troubleshooting we tracked the cause down to the above mentioned setting.  After we set it back we have not seen this error since.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;However, when you get the not persistent error, it almost always took a database level manipulation to fix.  PTC tech support finally issued us a patch after quite a bit of work to clear up our last remaining errors.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;So the recommendation is to leave, 'Send a CAD document Dynamic Document to PDM without optional Dependents' at the default False setting.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;-marc&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:28:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96259#M11290</guid>
      <dc:creator>mdebower</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-31T18:28:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>RE: Windchill Error when data is moved.</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96260#M11291</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Bert,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;This could be 2 issues according to your email:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;SPAN style="&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ol&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style="&gt;The common issue when moving any object, you may have to restart windchill due to cache. This sometimes happens when you move a lot of files and you cannot see the files in the new location.&lt;/SPAN&gt;  &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL class="noindent"&gt;  &lt;LI&gt;    &lt;SPAN style="&amp;gt;Breaking family tables into separate models, are you sure you are looking at the object ID for the correct epmdocument master or instance. Breaking family tables still require a itteration I believe with a check in. It doesn't move the object unless you intensionally used the command move.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ol&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Thanks,&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Patrick&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; In Reply to Bert Busschers:&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;All,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I am trying to move a CREO part file from one contextbox to another one.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;I receive an error: Object"&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    I think the reason behind this is, that this part was in the past a family table part.    &lt;BR /&gt;    At this moment the latest revision is not a family table part.    &lt;BR /&gt;    The instance is "copied out". In fact the part and the instance are now separated parts.    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    Can anyone tell me how to solve this problem so I am able again to move the part?    &lt;BR /&gt;    Thanks in advance.    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    With kind Regards,    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    Bert Busschers    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    Sr. Mechanical Designer/CAD Administrator    &lt;BR /&gt;    ME/ID Department    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    [cid:image001.jpg@01D06BDA.316CF090]    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    Benchmark Electronics Almelo    &lt;BR /&gt;    Lelyweg 10 - 7602 EA Almelo - The Netherlands    &lt;BR /&gt;    +31 546 535209 (tel)    &lt;BR /&gt;    +31 546 535299 (fax)    &lt;BR /&gt;    Bert.Busschers@bench.com&amp;lt;    &lt;A href="mailto:Bert.Busschers@bench.com'%3E" target="_BLANK"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    www.bench.com&amp;lt;    &lt;A href="http://www.bench.com'%3E" target="_BLANK"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;BR /&gt;    &lt;/SPAN&gt;  &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:28:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Windchill/Windchill-Error-when-data-is-moved/m-p/96260#M11291</guid>
      <dc:creator>patrickchin2000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-04-01T19:28:35Z</dc:date>
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