topic Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status in Windchill

Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:01:36 GMT

In the OIR i set for a user Revise NOT possibile in only Released stase in epmdocument. For other states, for example draft, revise should be possible. But is already obscured

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

Catalina — Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:24:54 GMT

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Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

avillanueva — Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:36:13 GMT

Blocking revise can be done in ACLs and also in the Lifecycle definition. Can you post copies of both here? For clarity, you are seeing that its not possible to revise in Draft, but option is greyed out?

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 08:23:36 GMT

Configuration of ACLs rules on Approved status and Draft status

In draft status Revise icon is missing

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

Hari_Vara — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:33:29 GMT

Hi,

What is your business requirement?

Based on that we can go for an approach.

Usually Revision action is allowed for only "Released" objects. (Subject to the access control the user has) Sometimes, it too can be hidden in UI and only possible by a Change Notice.

There are many ways to achieve what you need (Business Requirement).

Cheers

Hari

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

HelesicPetr — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:29:54 GMT

Hi @FC_9723361

It would be nice to see your OIR configuration.

There are more rules for controlling the revision action then just ACL definition

I am not sure if you can control the revise action directly from the OIR .

- I guess that you have to have correct LifeCycle Template configuration, where the revise transaction is allowed,

- then ACL create has to be granted to the user in the target state where the new revision will be placed

- check the profile configuration if you use profiles.

PetrH

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:33:18 GMT

My business requirement is:

if the epm document is "Approved" Revise icon should be hidden

if the epm document is in "Draft" Revise icon should be visible.

Now is set in this way by acl rules, but in "draft" status Revise icon is hidden however

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

avillanueva — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:42:53 GMT

Tests you can do: Add "&jcaDebug=true" to the end of the URL on the EPMDocument page you are viewing in Draft. You will see a bunch of lady bugs appear. Click the actions drop down and see why the action is being disabled. It should say the validator or filter that disabled it.

Second, in the policy administrator, there is a "View Access Control Lists" where you can see a summary of the ACLS by object and state. See if something is off there, perhaps by user groups or deny rights.

Lastly, we should check the lifecycle template for your EPMDocument. Do you have Revise checked? This is showing its allowed in my In Work state but my ACLs only allows admin to do that.

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:20:42 GMT

Hello in attached debug, list acl rules and lifecycle. Seems to be right.

Perhaps in debug we should know what the problem is

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

HelesicPetr — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:25:34 GMT

Hi @FC_9723361

This ACL definition is ok, but you do not know if there are not any others definitions that could involve the results.

So go to the EPMDocument in the draft state, and use a Edit Access Control

Go to the detail info and check the ACL results and share the screen shot.

PetrH

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:30:36 GMT

As you thought revise is not checked in draf

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

HelesicPetr — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:42:27 GMT

Hi @FC_9723361

Go to the detail of the row by the I icon.

You will see where the ACLs are defined....

PS> be careful with Deny usage.

Absolute deny rule on any domain level will not allow to use the revise function even though it is allowed on a lower domain level

Deny rule can be rewritten on the lower domain level but if the Deny rule and Allow rule is on the same level, the Deny rule is applied.

Keep this rules in your mind.

PetrH

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:42:36 GMT

Now revise is able in details, but is always unchecked

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

HelesicPetr — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:49:23 GMT

Hi @FC_9723361

As I see your ACL rules are set directly on the User

I can not see all the rules defined please slide to the left to see the end of the row

The result is clear. You do not have granted access to the Revise

Check the Lifecycle Access control

it seams that somewhere the access is denied

PetrH

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

FC_9723361 — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:38 GMT

For the author revise is available, but if it is not the author ma only the modifier ? Should be this the problem?

Re: Revise active according with lifecycle status

HelesicPetr — Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:25:44 GMT

Hi @FC_9723361

I see the root case.

Your ACL rules define the Deny rules directly on the user. So others rules are rewritten.

The MINUS means Deny. So your ACL definition contains a users level ACL definition that rewrites all upper rules from domains.

Change it and the user will get the Revise rights.

PetrH