topic Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis in Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446843#M1379 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Hi, <A href="https://community.ptc.com/u1/337038">Paul Kloninger</A>‌</P><P>&nbsp; Nice Job, We can add the contact &amp; large deformation to Limitations of shell model. also, u have used the symmetry feature from Simulate that too have some more advantages than using full model.</P><P></P><P>Thank you for your valuable Job.</P></BODY></HTML> Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:33:30 GMT PARTHIBAN_K 2017-03-17T13:33:30Z Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446841#M1377 Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element AnalysisBY PARTHIBAN KANNAN · PUBLISHED MARCH 15, 2017 · UPDATED MARCH 17, 2017Hello Guys,Here, I am going to explain about the advantages of shell idealization over the solid model. I have done Geometric Element Analysis Thu, 03 May 2018 12:07:24 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446841#M1377 PARTHIBAN_K 2018-05-03T12:07:24Z Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446842#M1378 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Shell model...</P><P></P><P>Contact???</P><P></P><P>Large Deformation???</P><P></P><P>not possible</P><P></P><P>support / example</P><P></P><P><IMG alt="example.jpg" class="jive-image image-1" src="https://community.ptc.com/legacyfs/online/113276_example.jpg" style="height: 438px; width: 620px; float: left;" /></P></BODY></HTML> Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:58:08 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446842#M1378 skunks 2017-03-17T11:58:08Z Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446843#M1379 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Hi, <A href="https://community.ptc.com/u1/337038">Paul Kloninger</A>‌</P><P>&nbsp; Nice Job, We can add the contact &amp; large deformation to Limitations of shell model. also, u have used the symmetry feature from Simulate that too have some more advantages than using full model.</P><P></P><P>Thank you for your valuable Job.</P></BODY></HTML> Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:33:30 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446843#M1379 PARTHIBAN_K 2017-03-17T13:33:30Z Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446844#M1380 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><P>Hi, in the drawing is missing some measures like inner and outer radius.</P><P></P><P>I'm trying to redo the exercise with solid non-tetra elements.</P></BODY></HTML> Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:23:43 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/446844#M1380 gfraulini 2017-03-30T09:23:43Z Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/549374#M1381 <P>What about in modal analysis? Are the natural frequencies within 5% as your static deflection results?</P> <P>Thanks in advance.</P> <P>Rich Hilson</P> Thu, 17 May 2018 19:45:25 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/549374#M1381 rhilson 2018-05-17T19:45:25Z Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/580453#M1382 <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>A short test for Modal Analyses with only solid versus Solid AND shell in Creo 5.0.2.0. Strangly calculation time is MUCH MORE with shells than with only Solid in this case (49min. vs 1min). Mesh settings are default and only&nbsp;Quickstudy is applied, so I wouldn't worry over the result difference. I'm not ready to jump into conclusions yet, but at least be alert using shells in Modal.</P> <P><span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="C5_solid_vs_shell_modal.jpg" style="width: 999px;"><img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/11969i96F5CFF59C0FCE35/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;px=999" role="button" title="C5_solid_vs_shell_modal.jpg" alt="C5_solid_vs_shell_modal.jpg" /></span></P> Fri, 09 Nov 2018 12:34:18 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/580453#M1382 auijttewaal 2018-11-09T12:34:18Z Re: Shell Idealization Over the Solid Model in Geometric Element Analysis https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/581457#M1383 <P>We found Modal Analyses (in this example) is only slow when using Shell Pairs, not with 'simple' shells (defined by a single surface).</P> Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:53:01 GMT https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Analysis/Shell-Idealization-Over-the-Solid-Model-in-Geometric-Element/m-p/581457#M1383 auijttewaal 2018-11-16T09:53:01Z