topic Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly in Addtl Creo Products (View/Sketch/Illustrate/Layout/ Schematics and Creo Direct)

Sub components in assembly can only be master repconfiguration

CB_11916535 — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 20:25:24 GMT

Choosing User Defined for this sub assembly in this simplified rep automatically unchecks the part. Checking the box sets it back to Master Rep. How do I get a user defined representation to be allowed to display for this subassembly?

in creo

in pvz

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

StephenW — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:31:23 GMT

The checkmark will toggle thru certain options only, not all options.

But if you select user defined, you can choose any rep of the component selected. Notice the checkbox in the second example, its got a different symbol.

In my example, I didn't have a defined user rep, so I just selected default rep for an example.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

kdirth — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:41:31 GMT

First the user defined rep is on a part.

When you pick a user define rep for a part the box is unchecked, but the part is shown in the desired rep.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:52:48 GMT

Yes, the problem is that when saving the assembly out as a .pvz the parts that are not checked are excluded. So while it looks fine in the creo assembly, I am unable to save it out properly for others.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 13:54:03 GMT

Unfortunately, by me selecting user defined, it automatically unchecks the box. Rechecking the box changes the representation back to master rep. Without that box being checked, the part is excluded from the .pvz when saving it out.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

kdirth — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:16:10 GMT

So the issue is more with exporting a .pvz, which I don't have much experience with, of an assembly with a simplified rep.

I would suggest opening a support case with PTC.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

StephenW — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:18:15 GMT

I would say that it functions correctly in creo parametric, the problem isn't there.

Seems like this is a creo view problem?

You can post that problem here https://community.ptc.com/t5/Addtl-Creo-Products-View-Sketch/bd-p/creogeneral

or you can ask a moderator to move the post for you.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

kdirth — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 14:24:26 GMT

I gave it a try with my simple test assembly, and it seems to work just fine for me. Creo 7.0

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:08:32 GMT

The part is present in the saved out .pvz, but it comes in unchecked (like it is in the configuration in creo) when selecting the configuration from the viewables tab. I need it to display when selecting the configuration here.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

Catalina — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 09:05:41 GMT

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Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Thu, 26 Sep 2024 19:57:57 GMT

Hi, this has not been solved yet. Thanks

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 18:19:22 GMT

Hello, the problem is in Creo. If the box is checked in Creo, it is checked in the .pvz file. However, checking the box in Creo forces the simp rep to be master, when I need it to be user defined.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

StephenW — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 18:36:20 GMT

I tend to disagree. All functions with Creo are working as expected. So either the pvz recipe file is causing the problem or there is an issue with creo view.

Are you using a supported version of Creo and creo view and are you on maintenance? If so, I would suggest opening a tech support ticket.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 18:49:49 GMT

So creo is unable to have a configured assembly with configurable parts?

I am using creo 10 with creo view.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

StephenW — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:09:10 GMT

I think you are putting a meaning to the checkbox that isn't correct, at least in creo parametric, specifically in creo parametric.

I created a quick test assy and part with reps.

I configured the part with a rep and one of the sub assy's with a rep. Set those reps as user defined. In creo parametric, everything is working as expected.

Notice the "test-part-1" with a rep is unchecked but it is corrected within creo parametric.

Within creo parametric, everything seems to be functioning as expected. The export to creo view OR within creo view itself, it isn't understanding the rep. I am not familiar with creo view export recipe file or with creo view settings, so I am not really able to help with that part.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

CB_11916535 — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:20:39 GMT

Thank you for the effort in the test assembly. So what does that check box do then? Because parts that are fine to be in Master Rep that I want to display in the .pvz I check the box for and parts that I do not want displayed in the .pvz I uncheck the box for.

Re: Simplified rep will only let me use master representation of sub assembly

StephenW — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:25:58 GMT

The checkbox is a toggle for master or exclude only. Any other option other than master or exclude, you need to use the drop down

Re: Sub components in assembly can only be master repconfiguration

anursingh — Mon, 07 Oct 2024 23:05:49 GMT

Hi @CB_11916535,

I wanted to see if you got the help you needed.

If so, please mark the appropriate reply as the Accepted Solution. It will help other members who may have the same question.
Of course, if you have more to share on your issue, please pursue the conversation.

Thanks,
Anurag