topic Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue in System Administration

Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

olliecampbell — Fri, 03 May 2019 13:05:33 GMT

Hello,

I've seen, maybe with other CAD packages, a way that the drawings keep a log of historic up-issue's. How does everyone manage that here? At the moment I'm creating new drawings, saving it with a different file name and only including the modification that required the up-issue for that one drawing. Ideally I'd like to keep a log of the modifications from initial drawing through to the current iteration.

I hope that makes sense?

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

DaveMartin — Mon, 20 May 2019 17:14:48 GMT

What's an up-issue? I'm not familiar with that term.

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

olliecampbell — Tue, 21 May 2019 07:20:52 GMT

Hi Dave,

It's an increment of an issue number on a drawing. Maybe slang that I've gotten used to using!

Thanks

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

DaveMartin — Thu, 30 May 2019 21:20:43 GMT

I don't know what an issue number is... that might be a process or terminology specific to an industry or companies I haven't worked for.

Is that like a revision number?

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

olliecampbell — Fri, 31 May 2019 08:14:51 GMT

Yes that's the one.

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

joe_morton — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:07:04 GMT

Are you using Windchill to manage your files? Windchill keeps the history of the drawing, so there's no need to change the filename. We keep a manual table on ours for the engineer to enter information on what changed in that particular revision

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

olliecampbell — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 07:30:05 GMT

Hi,

No I'm not using Windchill.

It was that table that I was trying to find an automated method of updating after each change. I'm guessing it's a manual process.

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

Chris3 — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 11:25:14 GMT

Currently there is no way to automate this. There is a Creo enhancement idea for this for those that use Windchill:

https://community.ptc.com/t5/Windchill-Ideas/Add-Windchill-parameters-for-latest-change-number-and-where-used/idi-p/470362

Solidworks has a solution for this with their PDM package. There is a link in the Creo idea that shows how it is done.

We have given up on this and we now just have a statement that says to review the history in PDM.

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

DaveMartin — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 12:06:19 GMT

Aside from the revision, we are in the process of removing anything from the drawing that can be found in Windchill, like the revision block and signature block. It doesn't make sense anymore for us to be duplicating that information on a drawing sheet when all the information and more resides in our PLM system.

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

BenLoosli — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:07:30 GMT

How do you convey that information to a vendor to manufacture parts for you or make tooling for your parts?

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

DaveMartin — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:40:16 GMT

Share the information via ProjectLink.

And to clarify, what information do they need? While I can see that some revision information would be necessary, I don't see why they need would information like the signature block.

Re: Drawing templates: Historic up-issue

joe_morton — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:57:23 GMT

Is there a way in Projectlink to share out only Released versions? We're using it in an extremely limited way right now, and technically, our vendors can access the history tab of the objects we share. Ideally we wouldn't want them to be able to do that.