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    <title>topic Re: Facet feature - milling/manufacturing imported STL - crazy problems in Manufacturing (CAM)</title>
    <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577365#M4368</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Could some of the vectors on the facet be pointing in the wrong direction (inward instead of outward) and therefor causing retract to be inside the part?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:38:54 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Dale_Rosema</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-10-19T11:38:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Facet feature - milling/manufacturing imported STL - crazy problems</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577155#M4365</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey guys! First time poster here!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The main reason for me to post here is because crazy things are happening.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;What I've got:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- clean, completely manifold (solid) STL file (checked with multiple programs)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- imported as facet feature in the reference model&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- manufacturing model with mill windows defined&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- milling using roughing, reroughing and finishing&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;What happens:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Somehow, Creo decides to mill something we can't see ... the tool collides with invisible surfaces or goes through the reference part.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="milling.png" style="width: 308px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/11311i61974940230E22F0/image-dimensions/308x238?v=v2" width="308" height="238" role="button" title="milling.png" alt="milling.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Discoveries:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;when the model is opened in Vericut simulation, we can see our reference part is distorted. Though in Creo everything seems okay.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This distortion seems to be the crazy invisible things which are happening.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="assembly.png" style="width: 298px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/11309iEB1307EEFE09E529/image-dimensions/298x210?v=v2" width="298" height="210" role="button" title="assembly.png" alt="assembly.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="simulation.png" style="width: 305px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/11310i3DBC44CEE2FBFF2E/image-dimensions/305x210?v=v2" width="305" height="210" role="button" title="simulation.png" alt="simulation.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;How does this happen? Is there any way to fix this?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:11:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JohnnyK</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-18T14:11:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Facet feature - milling/manufacturing imported STL - crazy problems</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577164#M4366</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have never tried to machine a STL file before.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I know you said the file was a solid but? Not sure if that is the problem but I would start by Trying to import the file as a solid model rather than a faceted model or get&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp; Step file or whatever the solid was made from. If that isn't possible&amp;nbsp; I would then try using just a good ole volume roughing routine. Sometimes the new roughing goes a little crazy with odd shaped parts in my experience especially the retract. I always&amp;nbsp; set the retract to always and that seems to help some of the issues&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:47:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577164#M4366</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveLucas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-18T14:47:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Facet feature - milling/manufacturing imported STL - crazy problems</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577327#M4367</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your answer! Though I don't think this is a solution ...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's not possible to import the file as a solid model because the origin is a scan. It can be called a solid STL because there are no holes in the mesh, however in Creo this will not be solid geometry. Volume roughing is never possible on a facet feature.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The file is too heavy to convert to STEP and still be smooth enough.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is also the possibility to create a shrinkwrap, this way volume roughing is possible. When the full model is converted the surface is way too blocky. So I cut it up in parts, but then Creo can't handle the files anymore (too much/loading times too long)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm guessing Creo is wrongly interpreting the vertices in the background. Maybe there is an option to recalculate the mesh somewhere? (maybe a different program ... restyle/reverse engineering is not available for us in Creo)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:55:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577327#M4367</guid>
      <dc:creator>JohnnyK</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-19T06:55:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Facet feature - milling/manufacturing imported STL - crazy problems</title>
      <link>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577365#M4368</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Could some of the vectors on the facet be pointing in the wrong direction (inward instead of outward) and therefor causing retract to be inside the part?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:38:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/t5/Manufacturing-CAM/Facet-feature-milling-manufacturing-imported-STL-crazy-problems/m-p/577365#M4368</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dale_Rosema</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-19T11:38:54Z</dc:date>
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