topic Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0) in 3D Part & Assembly Design

Re: Parameter driven notes

Askin4aFriend — Wed, 03 Nov 2021 23:54:38 GMT

I am trying to do this with &MODEL_NAME:ATT_MDL and cannot get it to work. I am missing something? I would prefer to do this than to look at the session ID every time.

Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

Askin4aFriend — Fri, 05 Nov 2021 10:26:51 GMT

Hi Martin,

I can't seem to get :att_mdl or :att_body to work. Do you have any tricks?

Thanks

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

mneumueller — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 08:12:36 GMT

@Askin4aFriend wrote:

Hi Martin,

I can't seem to get :att_mdl or :att_body to work. Do you have any tricks?

Thanks

No trick, but it requires Creo 8.0 and it has to be a leader note.

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

Askin4aFriend — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:31:53 GMT

Ah I missed the Creo 8 part. Thanks for the response. I thought the :att_mdl functionality went further back though? I can't get something &model_name:att_mdl to work. I'm hoping to not have to look up the session ID every time. And more importantly I want the note to break (or need a new attachment) if the part changes.

Thanks

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

mneumueller — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:01:08 GMT

@Askin4aFriend wrote:

Ah I missed the Creo 8 part. Thanks for the response. I thought the :att_mdl functionality went further back though? I can't get something &model_name:att_mdl to work. I'm hoping to not have to look up the session ID every time. And more importantly I want the note to break (or need a new attachment) if the part changes.

Thanks

yes, only :att_body was new, you should get the other flavors for model, component, etc to work in earlier versions.

Have a look at the help section here: System Parameters for Drawings (ptc.com)

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

Askin4aFriend — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:30:12 GMT

Thanks, that section has been helpful for revamping my drawing templates.

This picture shows what I keep getting when trying to call out a specific part in an assembly drawing. It's a leader note attached to the part I'd like to call out. I have tried all the different parts in the assembly, tried adding the part model into the drawing, tried just "&model_name:att" (I think this is how it used to work a long time ago?), tried "&model_name:mdl", tried caps and no caps. Just can't seem to get it to go. Do you know if there's a hidden config option to allow this to pull through or something?

Thanks Martin!

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

mneumueller — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:37:10 GMT

no config required. can you try with a leader note in 3D and double-check our part parameters actually list the desired parameter?

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

StephenW — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:16:06 GMT

I think the problem you are having is the system paramter you are trying to use.

Try with a user defined parameter in your model. I believe it works. In my case, I used our description parameter and it works as expected.

Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a body parameter – Part 2 (new in Creo 8.0)

Askin4aFriend — Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:47:49 GMT

Thanks Stephen. I just discovered this as well when testing it out in 3D as Martin suggested. I can get user defined parameters to show up on a per part basis, just not the system parameters. I'm confused as to why this is the case. Unless I'm misinterpreting the functionality?

The link Martin sent above is for System Parameters for Drawings. I can get things like &view_scale and &format to work on the drawings and I haven't made those user defined parameters. I can also get &model_name (with no ":att_mdl") to work, but it only gives me the assembly name that I used to create the drawing. It seems that &model_name:att_mdl really only makes sense for assembly drawings where there are multiple parts since &model_name will work for both the assembly name in an assembly drawing and on the part drawing level. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding?

Then I thought maybe &model_name was giving me the drawing name, which is the same as the part name. So I did a test with a new drawing with a different title than the part. Added a leader note to the part and it still gave the part model name. So that's not it.

If I have to create a user defined parameter I think I might as well use the session ID.

Re: Parameter driven notes

MartinHanak — Fri, 05 Nov 2021 12:57:03 GMT

@Askin4aFriend wrote:

I am trying to do this with &MODEL_NAME:ATT_MDL and cannot get it to work. I am missing something? I would prefer to do this than to look at the session ID every time.

Hi,

please explain in more detail what you want to achieve. Attach some picture.

Re: Parameter driven notes

BenLoosli — Fri, 05 Nov 2021 14:42:28 GMT

Are you trying to put that information in a note or a table on the drawing?

Re: Parameter driven notes

Askin4aFriend — Fri, 05 Nov 2021 17:09:18 GMT

Sorry, I realized the question was somewhat vague. I have had some dialogue in another thread about this here: Re: Multibody - How to display, use or call-out a ... - PTC Community.

I am trying to do this with a leader note. I want to attach a leader note to a part in an assembly drawing and be able to call out the part specifically without having to search for the session ID. I am also hoping this method would either update or break the note if the part changes.

Stephen suggested that this works for user defined parameters. I had just discovered this with some experimenting myself. This was my response and some more detail about the issue:

"Thanks Stephen. I just discovered this as well when testing it out in 3D as Martin suggested. I can get user defined parameters to show up on a per part basis, just not the system parameters. I'm confused as to why this is the case. Unless I'm misinterpreting the functionality?

If I have to create a user defined parameter I think I might as well use the session ID."