topic Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to..... in 3D Part & Assembly Design

model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

dbutcher — Thu, 03 May 2018 03:39:13 GMT

One of most common mistakes happen when ordering steel for molds....getting the size wrong, too much is a non issue, too little is an oh shit.so what i want is a X,Y,Z max measurement of the model and then have the ability to get that value into my BOM automatically, then we'd

Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

Chris3 — Fri, 27 Oct 2017 05:51:36 GMT

You might want to vote on these ideas if you haven't:

Create a analysis feature that will give you the bounding box size

Add "solid_size" and "geom_size" as optional alternatives to "model_size"

Might also want to read through this thread:

Part size relation or parameter

Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

dschenken — Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:37:16 GMT

I would create datum curve geometry as one of the first features, preferably in a template, driven by parameters to get the size and based on a CSYS that is defined as a transform relative to the default CSYS so it can be repositioned and reoriented as required. Then as the part is made the user will be able to see if the part is outside the boundary and can adjust it as required. Give the parameters a uniform name so they can be automatically added to the BOM.

If the faces of this bounding box are filled with surfaces then one can measure the clearance with the part to ensure there is enough wall thickness. Alternatively, create offset surfaces with the minimum wall requirements and visually observe that the part doesn't exceed the minimum.

When most users want a real bounding box they are looking for the minimum volume bounding box, which may end up being not oriented parallel to the default coordinate system and can be difficult to find, and may have multiple, equal solutions.

Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

Jose_Costa — Mon, 30 Jan 2017 23:30:11 GMT

Nothing native in Creo do that.

Solution 1 - EMX

Emx can calculate boundary box for all parts in a assembly and save it in a specified parameter. It can even create a separate parameter for X, Y and Z. This is the best solution to me.

Solution 2 - Modelcheck

I read somewhere that Modelcheck can do this too if it configured, for free...

Solution 3 - Smart Assembly

Smart assembly can measure boundary boxes too, but i'm not sure if it does for all parts in a assembly.

Solution 4 - Manufacturing module (MDO)

Mfg module can measure a boundary box, but you have to do one by one and copy values, no parameter is created.

Solution 5 - Build a custom Toolkit app

You can build your own app for this with Toolkit.

Jose

Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

Jose_Costa — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 20:44:14 GMT

I tried Modelcheck and it works. I'm no expert in this but here is what I did:

Check your config.pro to see where are your modelcheck configs, example:

modelcheck_dir c:\Creo_Configs\MODEL_CHECK_CONFIGURATION

If you don't have copy this folder and use it:

....\Creo 3.0\M000\Common Files\modchk\text\usascii

Then edit the following file:

c:\Creo_Configs\MODEL_CHECK_CONFIGURATION\config\start\default_start.mcs

and add the following line at the bottom:

PRT_ADD_CHK_PARAM DIMS_MAX OVERALL_SIZE

This will create a parameter called "DIMS_MAX" (or choose another name) with the overall size in each part.

Restart Creo, open a assembly

Menu File->Prepare->Modelcheck Interactive->All Levels->Regenerate

Hope it helps.

Jose

Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

atrukhin — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 08:21:30 GMT

That`s quite fascinating. However, I`ve done all the sequence of operations that you mentioned and encountered the problem of not being able to have the parameter `DIMS_MAX` shown in the model tree. How to do that?

Re: model size for BOM, is there a way to.....

Jose_Costa — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:01:57 GMT

Just add it to the tree.

If it doesn't appear in assembly mode, do it in part mode, do "save settings file..." and do "Open settings file.." in asm mode.

EDIT: I found out that you need to change the file condition.mcc. I attached both, replace them and test.

..\config\condition.mcc

..\config\start\default_start.mcs

and the bad news are here: How to get the model size (solid geometry)