topic Re: Drawing views shifting when model changes in 3D Part & Assembly Design

Drawing views shifting when model changes

BPapp — Sun, 13 Dec 2020 01:57:38 GMT

Running Creo 3.0, build M020 with Wildfire.We do large aircraft assembly and modification models and drawings. What happens is we can complete a model and then complete the drawing. If anything changes on the model it can cause views on the drawing to move. In the past we were careful

Re: Drawing views shifting when model changes

slapha — Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:23:26 GMT

We've had this happen too, especially on a revision where someone starts updating the model and goes to update the drawing later. We're on Creo 2.0 but the change is the same. Basically the views stretch to match the model.

I’ve found the following

View associated symbols, and dimensions will scale relative to the overall size of the view, even if those individual features didn’t change
Views will adjust so that the center point is still at the center of the original view, this includes some changes to the skeletons (if you're using view center as origin)
Non-associated symbols or annotations will remain in the location that they were placed (though everything around them could change)
Datum features on a skeleton will not update view size
Shapes and sketches on a skeleton will update a view size even if not visible

I even made the following and show some examples of what I found

https://community.ptc.com/t5/Creo-Parametric-Ideas/Add-a-way-to-prevent-views-from-moving-after-changes/idi-p/468637

The response was in short make partial views and relate the view origin to something that won't change, like CS0.

Also check for exploded view, for some reason that got turned on by default in some of our models/views.

Re: Drawing views shifting when model changes

mender — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:07:49 GMT

If the views are *shifting*, then it seems likely that they are using the view center as the origin. If you expect you may be making changes that affect the view outline, using stable geometry (usually the assembly's base csys, perhaps via drawing_view_origin_csys) as the view origin is a good plan.

This won't address issues of certain detailing items parameterized relative to the view outline having this placement move when the view outline changes, but it's a start. Addressing that would involve a rather substantial project, which has for a number of releases not made the cut.

Re: Drawing views shifting when model changes

BPapp — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:54:08 GMT

Thanks Matthew. I appreciate your honest and helpful response. I'll try that, and hopefully that helps some.

Bruce

Re: Drawing views shifting when model changes

dschenken — Thu, 18 Feb 2016 00:56:19 GMT

Since the view-related draft items have locations scaled according to the view boundary, if the visible portion of the items does not change apparent size, one can set views to be Partial views and draw the boundary as desired. This will fix the view boundary and with it the size of the view, etc.