topic Jump to WF5 from WF3 in 3D Part & Assembly Design

Jump to WF5 from WF3

wsmith(customer — Sun, 13 Dec 2020 05:53:29 GMT

GreetingsSurvey says........Would you jump to WF5 from WF3?When will PTC end support for WF3?Our current OS is WinXPThanksI have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison Bill SmithDesign EngineerParker Hannifin CorporationElectronic Controls

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kkja — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:33:47 GMT

Go to WF4 and camp there for a while.

WF5’s ribbon menus in drawing mode are very annoying.

Jeff <><

Weld Assemblies

A.DelNegro — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:51:29 GMT

Curious question, Can I apply geometric tolerances to assemblies as
well?

Here's my problem... I'm creating a box out of 4 welded parts. I had
one made and it's not even close to square, even though I told them I
wanted it as square as possible. It looks like they put the rookie on
it. Anyway, now they are requesting an assembly drawing with
tolerances. OK, I can dig that. Problem is, what is the best way to
describe the box as being square and parallel within some angle or
dimension? I was looking through my Geom. Tolerances book and didn't
notice any references to assemblies.

Anyone have an opinion?

Thanx

Tony

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davehaigh — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:56:43 GMT

ProE support:
Windchill 10.0 discontinues support for Wildfire 3
Windchill 11.0 discontinues support for Wildfire 4

So says the Windchill Future Platform Support Summary, 06-11-10

David Haigh

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mpeterson — Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:54:11 GMT

I agree to go to WF4 unless you can really utilize the addtional functionality
in WF5. Thisis based on the exact same issue of the drawing ribbon interface
that I am use to now, but it still slows me down jumping between the modes.

Sincerely,
Mark A. Peterson
Sr Design Engineer
Igloo Products Corp
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BenLoosli — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:13:12 GMT

Standard End of Support date for Wildfire 3 was July 2010
WF3 to WF4 is an easy transition.
WF3 to WF5 will be hampered by the ribbon interface in drafting.

Thank you,

Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.

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mlocascio — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 01:03:07 GMT

Mr. William Smith (I have an uncle with the same name),

The last company that I worked for (currently unemployed) went from WF3 to
WF5. Why did they wait? Simple. They did not want to deal with the WindChill
issues. But when they HAD to deal with it they did.

While being unemployed the strangest things will interest you. Today I even
entertained the idea of taking an AutoCAD Light position near my home. Now
AutoCAD is not the most exciting CAD tool to work with. Just imagine it
being stripped down to the bone! I don't know. These desperate times are
bringing about near desperate measures.

My advice is JUMP to WF5. Once you have made the switch you will be elated.

Has anyone in the group made a commitment to go to Creo yet?

Michael P. Locascio

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dgschaefer — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:26:14 GMT

I think PTC is marketing WF5 as Creo Elements/Pro. So, while none of
the gee whiz new features are present yet, technically going to WF5 is
going to Creo.

Doug Schaefer

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DiVenti — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:44:40 GMT

Technically, I think Creo starts at WF5 M065, build which brings the Creo
Splashout screen.
We tried this build and it acted weird in reference with our network
mapped drives and we uninstalled it and went back to M050.

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dustin — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:03:31 GMT

Do not let the Ribbon haters get you down. It is just a simple matter of getting used to the interface. You do have to plan your drawing elements a bit better to maximize efficiency (insert all your drawing views in the layout tab prior to switching to the annotation tab, etc). I find it actually speeds up a drawing with a large model. There is less number crunching involved, and you can specify a selection preference for each tab in the ribbon.

I admit it can be cumbersome at first and has some disadvantages, but I think the advantages far outweigh them. I vote to go straight to WF5.

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pgress — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:51:16 GMT

On 11/17/10 10:03 AM, Dustin Hase wrote:
>
> Do not let the Ribbon haters get you down. It is just a simple matter of getting used to the interface. You do have to plan your drawing elements a bit better to maximize efficiency (insert all your drawing views in the layout tab prior to switching to the annotation tab, etc). I find it actually speeds up a drawing with a large model. There is less number crunching involved, and you can specify a selection preference for each tab in the ribbon.
>
> I admit it can be cumbersome at first and has some disadvantages, but I think the advantages far outweigh them. I vote to go straight to WF5.
>
>

I've been using WF5 for some time now and still fumble on the Ribbon interface. While I'm editing a drawing I switch between Views and Annotate quite often and I find it annoying to click the new tab just to edit its features. It was much more productive in WF4. Also, another big thing is there isn't a config.pro option to minimize the ribbon interface so at least it doesn't rob precious desktop space. You have to manually right-click then select minimize.

So I'm not a Ribbon hater, just a waist of space and productivity hater.

Paul

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ptc-1932745 — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:23:29 GMT

Not a ribbon hater, just a hater of PTC's 'half-fast' implementation of
it.

Biggest gripe is that the ribbon goes partially back to the
action-object model. Weren't we going down the object-action road?

In WF5, (in drawing) you can right-click an object (a view, a dimension,
the contents of a table) and the right-click menu comes with different
options depending on which ribbon-tab you have checked. For a newer
user to the interface (all of us) this is a disaster. After a while
(just like shock therapy) you learn to click the ribbon tab first before
you right click on an object in order to get the needed menu options
presented.

You also need to be in the right mode(tab) to be able to select certain
objects (but not all). You can select views and lock/unlock, and move
them while in Annotate mode(tab), but you cannot select dimensions in
Layout mode(tab), even just to move them.

You don't have these problems / issues in other 'ribbon' interface
applications. Most notably MS Office apps (PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook,
etc...). For example, the ribbon quite cleverly separates the functions
into general (task based) ribbon functions and immediate right click
functions.

When selecting an existing text box in a PowerPoint slide you are
immediately shown the 'handles' for manipulating the location and size
of the text box. If the current ribbon is 'Home' the values for text
font, size, and style, are indicated.

Right clicking on the box frame brings up options for the frame like
'bring to front' or 'send to back'. These options are also shown in the
'Format' tab, but you are NOT made to activate that tab before using
those options. Pretty good object-action implementation.

WF4 was pretty good at the object-action methodology. You could do
almost anything in drawing by using the right-click menus. If I
remember, there were problems with redefine being right before/after
delete, and the list order of options changing depending on conditions,
but OK overall.

The WF5 drawing ribbon interface will seem very uneven for anyone who
has experience with MS Office 'ribbon' apps. The rest of the software
(part, assembly, etc... modes) still make OK use of the right-click menu
and the object-action methodology.

There are some modeling improvements in WF 5 that are worth looking into
though.

Thank <insert deity=" here="> the whole interface isn't 'ribbonized' yet.

Christopher F. Gosnell

FPD Company

124 Hidden Valley Road

McMurray, PA 15317

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MikeBrattoli — Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:28:32 GMT

Chris,

You can move annotations while in Layout mode - hold down your Alt key
and pick on the annotation. You will then be able to move it including
flipping arrows, etc... Biggest issue I have with annotations in Layout
mode is the RMB menu not allowing you to get to the annotation
properties - a big issue as far as I'm concerned.

Mike Brattoli