topic Re: How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps in 3D Part & Assembly Design

How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps

StevenDumon — Fri, 04 May 2018 14:32:35 GMT

We have just recently got familiar with External Simplified Representations in order to keep our upper assemblies clean and free from orientations, cross sections and simplified representations that are mainly created for the drawings. External Simplified Representations offer a solution

Re: How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps

TomD.inPDX — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:24:47 GMT

I so want to see how this was written into the ESR specification

I did see an SPR on custom templates having a bug related to ESRs that was resolved in Creo 2.0 M070.

What version are you running?

Re: How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps

StevenDumon — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:29:11 GMT

We are currently still on Wildfire 5.0 M210, but have learned from our reseller that :

"...this is still the case in Creo (version not specified). We have found that when you create the simplified representation in the actual top assembly without checking out, it's possible to re-use user defined simplified reps. You can then "Copy As External" with the actual lower level user defined reps used correctly. Therefore this issue seems related to the UI."

Re: How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps

gkoch — Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:58:59 GMT

Yes unfortunately! Seems it simply has not been implemented yet.

An SPR is open and there is an article about this limitation in our database:

CS190092 : User defined simplified reps of sub-assemblies are not selectable when creating a new External simplified representation assembly in Creo Parametric

So you cannot specify them in external simplified rep and as a workaround you use internal simplified rep as to select them and then create an external from the internal simp rep.

Re: How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps

vzak — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 22:50:00 GMT

Gentlemen,

While capability to reuse user defined simpreps from design assembly in Definition Rep of ExtSImpRep is really missing, this is easely workaroundable issue now. There is an option to create ESR - own simpreps (besides Definition Rep), where container subassemblies user defined simpreps can be definitely used.

In ESR, create new simprep / see "user defined" will appear for subassemblies. ESR - level simprep can be used for File / Open Rep (of ESR) and anything else. So: create ESR from Master Rep of top assembly (or whatever rep you want), open ESR , create its own simprep, use User Defined from subassemblies.

The only benefit of having User Defined in ESR Definition Rep (which is actually ESR content definition) is in eliminating PDM dependents download when checking out ESR. Definition Rep will not bring anything beyond what's in it, while ESR level simprep can not be used for PDM actions - it is transparent for PDM as any regular simprep.

Re: How to re-use predefined simplified reps in External Simplified Reps

jchance — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:15:28 GMT

Is this something that has ever been 'fixed' in creo6?

absolutely ridiculous that i need to create a simplified rep of an external simplified reps that want to look at simplified reps.