topic Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License in ThingWorx Developers

Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

OCMutz — Wed, 01 Jul 2020 12:04:19 GMT

Hi all,

I was a little shocked that Thingworx 9.0 requires JDK 8U241 or higher.

No alternative support for OpenJDK or Coretto is available.

As a consequence every commercial user upgrading or installing Thingworx 9.0 is forced to purchase Oracle Java SE Subscription Licenses which might be quite expensive depending on the underlying architecture.

Does anybody know about any plans to support Open JDK or Amazon Coretto in upcoming releases of Thingworx?

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

slangley — Wed, 01 Jul 2020 15:03:14 GMT

Hi @OCMutz.

I'm happy to advise that support for OpenJDK is coming in a future release. Once more details are known regarding the target date/release, I will post an update.

Regards.

--Sharon

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

BjoernRueegg — Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:43:25 GMT

@slangley How long will that take? 9.0.x or 9.1 or 10? Thingworx 9 is now available, but most customer will not upgrade because of that hot java topic. I don't know any SME which is willing to pay Oracle for those licenses. Especially it they run just Thingworx Navigate. Windchill is now compatible with Amazon Corretto. Please provide any roadmap, so the customer can plan their upgrade.

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

slangley — Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:39:14 GMT

Hi @BjoernRueegg.

Details regarding the version and release date are not yet finalized. As previously stated, I will post an update here once we have more information.

Regards.

--Sharon

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

BjoernRueegg — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 04:24:12 GMT

Thx. Just that you know, I guess no customer won't do any upgrade until the Java problem will be solved with a "free" solution.

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

StefanBode — Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:12:09 GMT

Hi, regarding the timeline PTC has to be crystal clear not to commit anything before it is released. You can already see that the latest version of 8.5 and 9.0 seems to run with Coretto without easy to notice bugs. The plan is to enable this quite soon and you know: Software is a beast

My Sandbox systems do well with Coretto but for sure for the production instance, you have to be on a supported path.

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

StefanBode — Thu, 27 Aug 2020 14:23:11 GMT

We are still on track: Amazon Corretto OpenJDK 11 is likely for Thingworx 9.1. This will be in line with all the other PTC products. Crossing fingers and we will get this before Christmas. As always: No commitment.

Stefan

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

StefanBode — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 13:20:52 GMT

The non-public pre-release of 9.1 is released and Amazon Corretto Java 11 (OpenJDK) is IN

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

slangley — Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:38:44 GMT

Hi @OCMutz.

If you feel your question has been answered, please mark the appropriate response as the Accepted Solution for the benefit of others with the same question.

Regards.

--Sharon

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

vinay55 — Thu, 05 Nov 2020 12:20:23 GMT

How can I get access to non-public release of 9.1?

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

StefanBode — Thu, 05 Nov 2020 12:24:22 GMT

This is a PTC internal version. Please wait a few weeks. 9.1 is in the final steps for release

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

VladimirRosu — Fri, 06 Nov 2020 09:47:29 GMT

@BjoernRueegg

Seeing you are interested in the release dates for ThingWorx 9.1, be aware that we publish those dates here:

https://support.ptc.com/cs/product_calendar/PTC_Product_Calendar.htm#RANGE!A577

That page includes the estimated release date for ThingWorx 9.1

Looking at your earlier request regarding compatibility with non-Oracle JDK implementations, while the PTC community is a good source of information that will help remove some roadblocks in many cases, the best channel for the information you asked for is either your Partner Manager (if you're an system integrator), or your customer's Customer Success Manager.

This specific topic is not just a small implementation question and as such must be managed more appropriately through those channels, who will make sure to get you in contact with our internal structure who is responsible for those areas. In this way, you'll get a much faster and verified answer.

Hope it helps in the future!

Re: Thingworx 9.0 forces the use of Oracle Java SE Subscription License

StefanBode — Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:26:56 GMT

ThingWorx 9.1 is released today and includes Open JDK Coretto as supported platform. Have fun and lets close this topic.