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Connections attivabile

gfraulini
17-Peridot

Connections attivabile

Is there a way to make a connection attivabile by relation?
In the sens of a connection (gear or motor for example) that runs under certain situations and it doesn't in some others.
Eg: if this distance is lower than X, then you don't work.

 

Thanks

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tbraxton
21-Topaz II
(To:gfraulini)

I think what you are looking for is control of the servo or motor within mechanism mode. This is not done using part relations but provides options for conditional forcing functions applied to a design in Creo mechanism.

 

To Define a User-Defined Motor Function (ptc.com)

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Involute Development, LLC
Consulting Engineers
Specialists in Creo Parametric

Hi, this assembly is in Creo 8.0.9

 

I would to control the rotation of the green component with an actuator that may operate on other component too.
So I can't use a gear, useless I have te ability to "switch on/off" the gear; in this way I can the same gray piece to operate over other green ones.
Now I work around with 3D Connection but is a mess..

tbraxton
21-Topaz II
(To:gfraulini)

For a mechanism, motion axis servo motors specify the position, velocity, or acceleration of a mechanism. For example, creating a servo motor at the motion axis of a Pin connection will create a rotational servo motor. Creating a servo motor at the motion axis of a Slider connection will create a translational servo motor.

 

This is exactly the motions (1: linear 2: rotational) shown in your mechanism video above.

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Involute Development, LLC
Consulting Engineers
Specialists in Creo Parametric

I have used  two servo motors in the attached files.

The main point is, in my opinion, still the same: activating a connection only under some conditions.

Macbeth by creating angular measure of motor rotation and assigning by relation the equality to a new servo placed on the other piece with a condition on the relative distance. 

I need to try

tbraxton
21-Topaz II
(To:gfraulini)

Perhaps I am not understanding your question clearly. Are you asking about disabling an active mechanism connection or control of the servo motors?

 

You can control servo motors in the time domain, and you can use tables or the user defined options to define the servo activation. In your case if you want to "turn off" the linear translation and activate the rotation servo at a specified time then this is supported AFAIK.

 

To Define a Motor (ptc.com)

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Involute Development, LLC
Consulting Engineers
Specialists in Creo Parametric

Unfortunately, unlike some other MBD codes that can turn on and off connections based on triggers, Creo does not have the functionality.

 

What might work is an alternative to the gear connection (manual implementation) using PID servo control to relate the two rotational DOFs in the similar way as a gear. The PID implementation is a bit tricky to tune because it indirectly uses the torque to control for example the ratio of speeds. In your case it is even more difficult because you also need to add the domain control such that the PID is only active when the parts have translated some amount to be together.

 

I think 3D contact might be the least messy way and it can also evaluate the case when the teeth are being synchronized. I would probably put a dummy sphere on one part, and some added cylinders on the mating part to ensure the parts ultimately slide into engagement if they happen to be out of sync. Its a bit difficult for me to portray, without doing a full model but don't feel like you have to use the exact surfaces of the part. You could even use a pattern of spheres to model a more complex 3D contact shape. A good example is when modelling the drop of a box onto a floor, the flat planes are not used, rather small spheres are placed at each corner to contact the floor.

 

Here is a reference for the PID method.

https://community.ptc.com/t5/Analysis/Can-a-PID-motor-control-be-implemented-in-CREO-mechanism/m-p/572347/highlight/true#M527

Hi SweetPearsHub, what you've posted is an old thread where I also intervened.
Now I use a workaround system because I have inserted different servo motors linked to a external files created by a curves generator. But I still must manage different curves instead of only one.
I wonder if PTC has the will of improve his Mechanism module....

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