3 Replies Latest reply: Jul 24, 2015 5:27 PM by JWayman RSS

    Motion Skeletons

    JWayman Gold

      I am trying to use a Motion Skeleton to drive a pantograph mechanism.

      I create my Motion Skeleton, create my Design Skeleton, create my (7) Body Skeletons, then try to put some limits on my axes.

      Whenever I flex my Motion Skeleton, it seems ****-bent on folding up so that several of my Body Skeletons lie on top of each other. This is clearly not the case in the Design Skeleton. Once it has made up its mind to do this, there seems to be no way to get the offending Bodies to clamber off each other and resume a separate existence. It seems to me that the system has settled on what I believe to be an impossible configuration. Even if I am wrong, it is a highly unlikely configuration, and certainly not one that resembles the Design Skeleton sketch.

      Now, call me an incurable optimist, but I am sure there must be an easy way to revert the Motion Skeleton to the configuration shown in the Design Skeleton. So far, I have been reduced to the age-old Pro/E recovery procedure of :

      Delete the offending items and re-do them.

      This is becoming tedious.


      What clever twists am I missing?


      Is there a 'Revert to Design Sketch' button staring me in the face?

      Please say 'Yes.'



      WF4, M220






        • Re: Motion Skeletons
          TomD.inPDX PTC Community Champion

          Yes and no... not specifically a button but you can recover the previous mechanism "default state" if that is what you are looking for.


          The idea behind this is that you had run a Mechanism Analysis and saved it. It can do anything, or nothing; you just need an analysis saved. From there you would Play the analysis. Slide the Play slider all the way to zero and exit. This is the position of the start of the analysis that you ran earlier.


          Not elegant if you are not looking for motion, but it is the only way I have found to -reliably- reset the linked structure.


          Again, I am not sure this is fully applicable to your needs, but it is an observation I've made playing with mechanisms.


          Of course, limits in your constraints are the other way to avoid illogical conditions but they are not the be-all and end-all solution.

          • Re: Motion Skeletons
            vzak PTC Employee



            Motion Skeleton is a regular mechanism in all meanings, same way mechanism can "collapse" so MS can.

            Easiest way to restore initial state of affairs is to create a snapshot right after you create your Body Skeletons.


            Then whenever your mechanism (of any type) collapses to an undesired position due to high # of DOFs you can restore initial position by one button hit.